tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-114325152008-07-25T02:07:52.348-04:00Eruv Onlinelinemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comBlogger304125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-18201233126824908272008-07-24T21:40:00.002-04:002008-07-25T02:07:52.370-04:00The Opinion of the Chacham Tzvi, the Bais Ephraim, and the Mahari Asad Regarding London<p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="DIRECTION: rtl; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: right"></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align="center"><b><u><span lang="HE">שיטת החכם צבי, הבית אפרים, והמהר"י אסאד – לענין לונדון</span></u></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl"><span lang="HE"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><span lang="HE">הנה בשו"ת בית אפרים או"ח סי' כ"ו כתב וז"ל: ולענ"ד דאף הפוסקים דתלו טעמייהו שאין רשות הרבים משום שאין רחב י"ו אמה ולא הזכירו ששים רבוא, לפי שהיו מצוי שם כמה עיירות גדולות במדינת אשכנז וצרפת ואינגלטירא שהיו בו ס' רבוא, כגון עיר הגדולה פאריז לונדון ווינא פפד"מ (-פרנקפורט דמיין) ועוד רבים כהנה כרכים גדולים אשר המה רוכלי העמים ומרובה באוכלוסין מאד, והיו גם ישראל הרבה דרין שם וכו', ואמנם עיירות שבמדינות אלו רחובותיהם קצרים ואין בהם רוחב י"ו אמה, וגם אין מכוונים משער לשער, ולכך נקטי טפי הנך שהם כוללים יותר אף לכרכים גדולים, עכ"ל.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><span lang="HE">והנה פשוט שכוונתו, שיש "מקומות" בעיירות ההם שבקעו בהם ששים רבוא, וכמו שהסביר בשו"ת מנחת אלעזר ח"ג סימן ד' ד"ה עוד ראיתי, וז"ל: בעיירות הגדולות כמו לונדון פאריז ווין וברלין וכהנה,<i>"<b><u>ברחובות הגדולים מקום המסחר ביותר"</u></b></i>, דבודאי ששים רבוא בוקעין בו ביום, ועיין בתשו' בית אפרים סימן כ"ו אשר העמיק והרחיב בזה בארוכה, עכ"ל.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><span lang="HE">וכ"כ בשו"ת ישכיל עבדי (ח"ב קונטרס אחרון או"ח סימן ו' אות ח') וז"ל: ואף במקומות שיש רה"ר גמורה כמו לונדון פריז, <i>ודאי דאין זה אלא ברחובות הגדולים מקום המסחר</i>, לא במקומות הדיירים ומכל שכן בשכונות היהודים, שבודאי שרק שם נזהרין לעשות הכשר עירוב, ודאי דאין שם ס' רבוא בוקעים בכל יום ואינו אלא כרמלית, עכ"ל.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><span lang="HE">וממילא מובן שזהו כוונת המהר"י אסאד באו"ח סימן פ"ז ד"ה וראיה לזה, שהעתיק דברי הבית אפרים הנ"ל. (ואגב, מה שסיים שם: "ובתשו' בית אפרים האריך לברר דדעת רוב הפוסקים דבזה"ז איכא נמי רה"ר דאורייתא ולא צריך סמ"ך רבוא בוקעים בו", הוא תמוה, דזהו שיטת השואל שם (המשכנות יעקב), וכל אריכות הבית אפרים הוא לדחות דבריו). וזה כנראה ג"כ כוונת המנחת יצחק שהעתיק מהבית אפרים דעיר לונדון הוי רשות הרבים, וכוונתו שיש "מקומות" בתוכו שהם רשה"ר, וממילא יש להזהר שם יותר לענין הוצאה ע"ש.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><span lang="HE">גם סיים שם הבית אפרים, שלכך נקטי הראשונים טפי הטעם של אין בהם רוחב י"ו אמה וגם אין מכוונים משער לשער, "שהם כוללים יותר אף לכרכים גדולים", היינו שכוונת הראשונים לומר דאף במקומות שבוקעים בהם ששים רבוא אין להם דין רשות הרבים. וכיון שידוע <b><i><u>שהרחובות בשכונה זו אינם מכוונים משער לשער</u></i></b>, מותר לכו"ע. </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><span lang="HE">ולענין החכם צבי, זה לשון השואל בשו"ת חכם צבי סימן ל"ז:</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><span lang="HE">קשה בעיני ביותר, איך יתכן שארץ רחבת ידים (-אינגלטיר"ה, ענגלאנד) ויש עליה <b><i><u>"כמה סרטיות ופלטיות"</u></i></b> בתוכו דדרסי בה רבים<b><i><u> ואולי</u></i></b> ס' רבוא בלא עיכוב כלל, תיחשב לרשות היחיד בכח גוד אסיק לחודיה (-ממחיצות הים) בלא מחיצות (-בני אדם) כלל, ואם תאמר כך הוא בטלה תורת רשות הרבים מינה, עכ"ל.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><span lang="HE">וע"ז השיב החכם צבי וז"ל: </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><span lang="HE">ואני אומר, אם התורה אמרה כך תיבטל, ומה בכך, ואלו היתה אינגלטיר"ה מוקפת מחיצות כל סביבה אז ישר בעיניך ביטול רשות הרבים ממנה, ולא יוקשה לך על "סרטיות ופלטיות שבתוכה", וכיון דמחיצות העומק והרום דין אחד להם מה לי מחיצה בגובה או בעומק. זהו לפי הודאת ההנחה. אמנם לפי האמת אומר אני... דאינגלטיר"א ואיסכוסי"א וכיוצא בהם שהים חומתן, חייבין עליהן משום רשות הרבים, דאתו רבים ומבטלי <b><i><u>"מחיצה שאינה עשויה בידי אדם"</u></i></b>.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><span lang="HE">הרי דקאי על מה שכתב השואל שיש "כמה סרטיות ופלטיות" בתוכו דדרסי בה רבים "ואולי" ס' רבוא, ועל "מקומות ההם" השיב דמחיצת הים אין מבטלים דין רשות הרבים, דאתו רבים ומבטלי "מחיצה שאינה עשויה בידי אדם". ונמצא, דרק מקומות מיוחדים יש שאולי בוקעים בו ששים רבוא. ואף שם מהני מחיצה ביד אדם.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><b><span lang="HE">היוצא לנו מכל זה, דשכונת היהודים שעושים שם עירוב, אין בו שום שאלה של רשות הרבים לפי הגדולים הנ"ל, שאינם במקום <i>"רחובות הגדולים מקום המסחר ביותר"</i>, ובודאי אין בוקעים בו ששים רבוא בכל יום. וגם שהרחובות בשכונה זו אינם מכוונים משער לשער.</span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" dir="rtl" align="justify"><span style="font-family:David;"><b><span lang="HE">ובאמת אפילו אם היה שם חשש רשות הרבים, הרי השכונה מוקף בשלש מחיצות עומד מרובה על הפרוץ (וגם בצד הרביעי כיון שהרחובות עקומים יש שם מחיצות הבתים), ועי"ז נפקע ממנו דין רשות הרבים לכו"ע.</span></b></span></p>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-31922051640659100992008-07-18T00:44:00.003-04:002008-07-20T20:12:26.988-04:00The Stamford Hill Eruv Imbroglio Continues<p align="justify">While at this point I won’t divulge all the information that I was made privy to, I feel that there is a need to expose at least some of the terroristic tactics being employed against those who support the establishment of an <em>eruv</em>. Additionally, I think there is a need for certain people to realize that the <em>velt iz nisht hefker</em>, and there is <em>din v’chesbon</em>. I was told by people who are documenting all the dirty tactics that are being practiced in this controversy that they will eventually expose all of them. I will just mention, without much commentary, a few incidents that just happened lately.<br /><br />One rebbe in Eretz Yisroel is being pressured by a Kedassia <em>rav</em> from Golders Green to compel his <em>dayanim</em> in Stamford Hill not to support the <em>eruv</em>. This Chassidus is also being blackmailed that if they don’t sign against the <em>eruv</em>, their members who own stores in the neighborhood will be boycotted. They are also being enticed with offers that Kedassia will start using this <em>kehilla’s hechsher</em> if they join against the <em>eruv</em>. [Until now Kedassia claimed that the reason why they did not use this <em>hechsher</em> was that it was not <em>mehadrin</em> enough, but I guess once they sign against the <em>eruv</em>, the <em>hechsher</em> will automatically turn into a <em>mehadrin</em> one.] </p><p align="justify">The main <em>rav</em> opposing the <em>eruv</em> protested to a rebbe in Eretz Yisroel that one of his <em>chashuva</em> Chasidim, a resident of Stamford Hill, is the main supporter of the <em>eruv</em> and was bringing in outside <em>rabbanim</em> to give a <em>hechsher</em> on the <em>eruv</em>. This <em>rav</em> argued that the Chasid was undermining his <em>rabbanus</em> and that the rebbe should rein him in. Great pressure was imposed on this Chasid to desist in his actions.</p><p align="justify">As I predicted, the fight against the <em>eruv</em> in Stamford Hill will make all the other instances of <em>machlokas</em> there pale in comparison. The extent to which some are willing to go to be <em>mevatel a mitzvah d’rabbanan</em> is astounding. I will add that since they are impeding a <em>mitzvah d’rabbanan</em> there is no greater <em>chillul Hashem</em>, and <em>b'mokom sheyeish chillul Hashem ein cholkim kovod l'rav</em> (<em>Shulchan Aruch</em>, <em>Y.D. siman</em> 242:11).</p>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-38114370302634903322008-07-14T14:32:00.000-04:002008-07-14T15:12:45.160-04:00My Answer to Some Critique<div align="justify">Lately, someone disseminated a response to my critical comments on <em>The Jewish Tribune</em> diatribe against the <em>NW London Eruv</em>. Clearly they left out the <em>ikar</em>, and it is obviously because they have no rejoinder. Even though I would rather not involve myself in a petty debate, however, as <em>Chazal</em> say <em>v’da mah shtashiv</em>… I feel that it is incumbent on me to answer. Nevertheless, since I don’t deem this a worthwhile argument, I will only post it in the comment section for those of you who are interested.</div><div align="justify"></div><br /><div align="justify"><span style="color:#3366ff;">Update</span> – See comment section.</div>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-46920094600953967522008-07-14T13:09:00.003-04:002008-07-14T13:13:52.236-04:00Eruvin in the News: Eretz Yisroel 2<div align="center"><strong>Meretz Activists Burn Poles Used for Sabbath Observance</strong></div><div align="center"><strong></strong></div><br /><div align="justify">(IsraelNN.com) Left-wing Meretz party activists were caught burning poles that are used for the establishment of the "Eruv" on the Sabbath, according to a Kol Chai radio report quoted by Yeshiva World News. Meretz is generally considered a secular party with anti-religious elements. <a href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/149851">Read on...</a></div><div align="justify"></div>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-38160663857144773452008-07-08T19:50:00.015-04:002008-07-24T22:06:52.340-04:00Part 1: The Truth About Rav Chaim Michoel Dov Weissmandel zt”l and a Eruv in New York City<div align="justify">Since the establishment of the current Boro Park and Williamsburg <em>eruvin</em>, there has been much debate regarding the opinion of the Nitra Rosh Yeshiva, Rav Chaim Michoel Dov Weissmandel <em>zt”l</em> (1903 - 1957). A great deal has been alleged in Rav Michoel Dov’s name regarding <em>eruvin</em>, much of which is clearly inaccurate and was concocted way after the fact, particularly in the book <em>Yalkut Michtavim</em>. Moreover, these fairy-tales have gained credibility since they are now cited in the newly published biography on Rav Weissmandel called <em>Ish Chamudos</em> (it is fascinating that the authors of this biography did not cite the source of these tall tales possibly because they realize that <em>Yalkut Michtavim</em> has little integrity). As usual, in their haste to prove that all the <em>poskim</em> were against establishing <em>eruvin</em>, the anti-<em>eruv</em> group concocts fictional stories that, upon closer examination, do not hold water. Therefore, I would like to set the record straight and present the facts chronologically.<br /><br />In 1939, when Rav Michoel Dov was in London, he wrote a letter to his father-in-law stating that it would be easy to establish an <em>eruv</em> there, and it would only require twenty-one <em>delasos reuyos l’hinael</em>. He added that it would be ideal if he would be able to erect <em>tzuras hapesachim</em>, and that he hoped to write a <em>kuntres</em> regarding the matter (<em>Toras Chemed</em>, letter 53; see also <em>Kovetz Toras Chemed</em>, vol. 1 p. 18-19 and <em>Alei Deshe</em>, year 2 issue 1).<br /><br />In the introduction to Rav Michoel Dov’s sefer, <em>Toras Chemed</em>, they write that one of the issues that he was involved with prior to his coming to America was <em>eruvin</em>. It is also well known that, after coming to America in 1946, Rav Michoel Dov gave many<em> shiurim</em> on <em>Meseches Eruvin</em>.<br /><br />On April 13, 1949 at the behest of Rav Tzvi Eisenstadt <em>zt”l</em>, Rav Michoel Dov wrote a <em>teshuvah</em>, in support of an <em>eruv</em> for Brooklyn (<em>Toras Chemed</em>, <em>siman</em> 1). The issue was so important to Rav Michoel Dov that he commenced to write the <em>teshuvah</em> on <em>Erev Pesach</em>, and since he was concerned that he would not have time to conclude it after <em>Yom Tov</em>, he stated that it was a <em>davar ha’aveid</em> and that he was allowed to finish it even on <em>Chol Hamoed</em>.<br /><br />Rav Michoel Dov supported Rav Eisenstadt’s drive to institute an <em>eruv</em> and stated:<br /></div><br /><blockquote><br /><p align="right">ומאחר שלפע"ד הדבר נוגע במצוה רבה הנני כותב מכתב זה וכו', ואשרי חלקו דמר אם יעלה בידו להוציא הוראה לפועל בדבר הזה בהסכמת גדולי תורה המכוונים הוראה לשם שמים</p></blockquote><br /><div align="justify">Rav Michoel Dov ended this <em>teshuvah</em> by encouraging Rav Eisenstadt with the following words:<br /></div><br /><blockquote><br /><p align="right">כשבאתי לכאן בגזירת עליון חשבתי תמיד מי יתן וזכיתי לכך וכו', נא במטותא מיני' דמר נ"י, בזכות אבותיו הקדושים, כיון שהתחיל במצוה זו אל יתרשל</p></blockquote><br /><div align="justify">At the outset, Rav Michoel Dov stated (ibid.,) that he did not write the teshuvah to establish the halachah; for this matter, he argued, Rav Yonasan Stief <em>zt”l</em> should be enlisted:<br /></div><br /><blockquote><br /><p align="right">לא לברר הלכה אני כותב, כי מה מני יהלך, אלא לדבר דבור הנוגע למעשה, ובענין זה יש לי עצה טובה. ידענא בי' בגברא רבא, זקן ויושב בישיבה, ובעל הוראה מפורסם ע"פ דרכי הוראה של מרן הח"ס ותלמידיו זי"ע, הגאון האמתי וצדיק תמים, מוהר"ר יונתן שטייף נ"י שיש לו כח דהיתרא לשם שמים. טוב הדבר למעשה להכניסו בהוראה זו. גם אנכי אדבר עמו אי"ה, אמנם למעשה, טוב הדבר שגם מעכ"ת נ"י כה יעשה ... מלבד שהגאון הנזכר הוא בקי גדול ומצויין בהוראה גאון וצדיק וישיש, יש כאן טעם גדול אחר להטיל עליו זאת ההוראה לפי שהוא ענוותן שלא נמצא כמוהו בדור הזה לפע"ד, שפל ברך, שייף עייל שייף נפק, שלא יורה הוראה אלא בפלפול חברים ושאילת פה כל הגדולים וכל הקטנים בכל מיני כבוד והדור וזה עיקר גדול להוציא את ההוראה הזאת לפועל, ודי בזה למבין בשפלות הדור הזה בעקבתא דמשיחא, ומנהיג לפי הדור<br /></p></blockquote><br /><div align="justify">In a later <em>teshuvah</em> (August 19, 1951), Rav Michoel Dov reiterated (ibid., siman 2) that he was not issuing a <em>p’sak</em> and added that from the time he wrote his first <em>teshuvah</em>, the issue had since been presented to the great <em>poskim</em>:<br /></div><br /><blockquote><br /><p align="right">ועיקר הדבר מה שאני רוצה להגיד בדגש חזק הוא, כי כל מה שכתבתי אז כמו עתה, לא כתבתי אלא לפלפולא דאורייתא בעלמא ... וגם זה מעט שכתבתי אז, הי' זמן זמנים טרם שנתלה הדבר להלכה באשלי רברבי אשר מפיהם אנו חיים</p></blockquote><br /><div align="justify">From Rav Michoel Dov’s first <em>teshuvah</em> we discern that he planned an <em>eruv</em> that would encompass a large portion of Brooklyn:<br /></div><br /><blockquote><br /><p align="right">והנה העיר ברוקלין הים והנהר חומתה מג' רוחות כו', ולא נשתייר אלא לדון על רוח צפונית כי מצפון תפתח העיר, אמנם לעומת זה כמעט על פני כל צד צפון משוך הגשר של העלעוועטעד ליינס, המתחלת מקרן צפונית מערבית, להתמשך מן גשר של וויליאמסבורג, כמעט עד צפונית מזרחית עד חוף הים. ואין כאן רק מעט פרצות, כמו שלושים רחובות.<a title="" href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2008/07/part-1-truth-about-rav-rav-chaim.html#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1">[1]</a> ואלו אפשר לתקן בצורת הפתח מאחר שכבר יש כאן שלש מחיצות, או בדלתות הראויות לנעול. כי אולי מצד ממשלת העיר יותר יסכימו על דלתות הראויות לנעול משיסכימו על צורת הפתח</p></blockquote><br /><div align="justify">From the refutation of Rav Michoel Dov’s <em>teshuvah</em>, written by Rav Moshe Feinstein <em>zt”l</em>, it is evident as well that Rav Michoel Dov was proposing an <em>eruv</em> for a large portion of Brooklyn (<em>Igros Moshe</em>, <em>O.C.</em> 1:138).<a title="" href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2008/07/part-1-truth-about-rav-rav-chaim.html#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2">[2]</a> Rav Moshe stated:<br /></div><br /><blockquote><br /><p align="right">והנה מה שרוצה הרב הגאון ר' [מיכאל] בער ווייסמאנדעל שליט"א והאריך בקונטרסו לדון על העלעוואטאר בדין פי תקרה יורד וסותם להחשיב חלק גדול מעיר ברוקלין כמוקף מחיצות משום שבג' רוחות כותב שמוקפת ים ונהר וגידודי הים והנהר נעשו בבנין ע"י אדם</p></blockquote><br /><div align="justify">However, in Rav Michoel Dov last <em>teshuvah</em> (<em>Toras Chemed</em>,<em> siman</em> 3, dated September 8, 1951) regarding <em>eruvin</em>, we can discern that he was only proposing an <em>eruv</em> that would have merely encompassed the Brooklyn neighborhood of Williamsburg:<br /></div><br /><blockquote><br /><p align="right">נסעתי דרך ברוקלין כו', ודרך העברה ראיתי כי אותו הגשר שבא מקווינס אל<br />הוויליאמסבורג גשר,<a title="" href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2008/07/part-1-truth-about-rav-rav-chaim.html#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3">[3]</a> קרוב להגשר ואינו חסר אלא מעט, כשיגמר זה הגשר יהי וויליאמסבורג מוקף מג' מחיצות שלימות, נעשות בידי אדם, ומחיצה הרביעית יהי' פי תקרה שיש בה משום כמה שמות של היתר. ואפילו עתה שלא נגמרה, לא חסר אלא להתיר איזה פרצות במקום שיש ג' מחיצות שלימות</p></blockquote><br /><div align="justify">The above demonstrates that Rav Michoel Dov followed Rav Yonasan Stief’s suggestion (in 1950) that it would be less difficult to erect an <em>eruv</em> for a single neighborhood (<em>Mahari Stief</em>, <em>siman</em> 68; see also <em>Yeshiva University Archives</em>, MS. 1300A for the original <em>teshuvah</em> written to Rav Eisenstadt). Rav Yonasan stated:<br /></div><br /><blockquote><br /><p align="right">ביחוד העיר ברוקלין אפשר לתקן שכונות שכונות דהיינו אותם השווקים שדרים בהם לרוב מהיראים, בקל יש לתקן אותם בצוה"פ, כי אפשר להשגיח ולבדוק בכל ע"ש אם לא נתהווה איזה שינוי או פירצה</p></blockquote><br /><div align="justify">This corresponds with what is cited in the name of Rav Libush Gottesman <em>shlita</em>, a <em>talmid</em> of Rav Michoel Dov (<em>Chai Anochi LeOlam</em>, p. 72). Rav Libush states that his rebbe mentioned to him that the Satmar rebbe <em>zt”l</em> only objected to an <em>eruv</em> encompassing a whole city (borough) but not to an <em>eruv</em> enclosing just a single neighborhood such as Williamsburg. Moreover, Rav Michoel Dov added that the Satmar rebbe’s objection was more of a recommendation that it would be better to just include a neighborhood and that the rebbe’s objection was not regarding halachic issues at all. Additionally, there are three alternate maps from Rav Michoel Dov that were published in Chai Anochi LeOlam (p. 149-151; see below) depicting his plan for an <em>eruv</em> encompassing only the neighborhood of Williamsburg.<br /><br />Moreover, Rav Libush Gottesman stated (ibid., p. 72) that the fact that, at the time, Rav Michoel Dov did not established an <em>eruv</em> in Williamsburg was not because the <em>rabbanim</em> withdraw their support only that they were not able to do so. It is discernable as well from Rav Michoel Dov’s <em>teshuvos</em>, that he attempted to minimize the need for <em>tzuras hapesachim</em> by making use of many existing structures for the boundaries of the <em>eruv</em>. In his first <em>teshuvah</em>, he even suggested that <em>delasos reuyos l’hinael</em> would possibly be more agreeable to the city government than <em>tzuras hapesachim</em>. This is a clear indication of how difficult it was until that time to establish an <em>eruv</em> and why the plans never materialized since they always required some modifications requiring <em>tzuras hapesachim</em>.<br /><br />In a letter of Rav Michoel Dov’s published in <em>Chai Anochi LeOlam</em> (p. 148 dated May 20, 1949), he disagreed with Rav Eisenstadt arguing that it would be more logical to first establish an <em>eruv</em> in Brooklyn and then in Manhattan. A Brooklyn<em> eruv</em>, he declared, involves the erecting of some <em>tzuras hapesachim</em>. Consequentially, uninformed people would recognize that an action was needed to establish the <em>eruv</em>. On the other hand, the proposed Manhattan <em>eruv</em> did not involve any physical action such as erecting <em>tzuras hapesachim</em> but only required a <em>p’sak</em> that would allow the <em>eruv</em> to be established. Consequentially, uninformed people might question what concrete steps were taken by the <em>rabbanim</em> to alter the existing conditions that had precluded the establishment of an <em>eruv</em> earlier. However, Rav Michoel Dov did allow an <em>eruv</em> in Manhattan and was posthumously included on a list of <em>rabbanim</em> who supported an <em>eruv</em> there (<em>Divrei Menachem</em>, <em>O.C.</em> vol. 2, p. 10).<br /><br />In 1956 and 1959, the The Shatzer rebbe, Rav Yosef Dovid Moskowitz <em>zt”l</em>, published his<em> sefer Kuntres Tikkun Eruvin Manhattan</em> (<em>Divrei Menachem</em>, <em>O.C.</em> vol. 2, summary) and stated that Rav Michoel Dov supported an <em>eruv</em> in New York (<em>Kuntres Tikkun Eruvin Manhattan</em>, p. 169).<br />_____________________</div><div align="justify"><br /><a title="" href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2008/07/part-1-truth-about-rav-rav-chaim.html#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1">[1]</a> Rav Michoel Dov is possibly referring to the Broadway El which runs from the Williamsburg Bridge and connects via the Broadway Junction to the Canarsie Line (L) and then terminates at the Rockaway Parkway station.<br /><a title="" href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2008/07/part-1-truth-about-rav-rav-chaim.html#_ftnref2" name="_ftn2">[2]</a> For a defense of Rav Michoel Dov’s position see <em>Minchas Yitzchok</em>, 7:24; <em>Pri Temarim</em>, 6:1 p. 27 and <em>Sha’ashu’ie Oraisa</em>, 1 p. 158.<br /><a title="" href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2008/07/part-1-truth-about-rav-rav-chaim.html#_ftnref3" name="_ftn3">[3]</a> Rav Michoel Dov is probably referring to the Brooklyn Queens Expressway which was under construction at the time.</div><p align="center">__________________________________________ </p><p align="center"><br />The following maps were published in <em>Chai Anochi LeOlam</em>, p. 149-151 without the descriptive text that follows each image. Click on image to enlarge.<br /></p><a href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_8BuQqIYy668/SHQG6jVv24I/AAAAAAAAAO0/bXIOuQs7y2A/s1600-h/02-Weismandel+%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%9B_Page_1.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5220805471017884546" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_8BuQqIYy668/SHQG6jVv24I/AAAAAAAAAO0/bXIOuQs7y2A/s400/02-Weismandel+%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%9B_Page_1.jpg" border="0" /></a><br /><a href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_8BuQqIYy668/SHQGxo8Z0dI/AAAAAAAAAOs/A64kHEqBuG0/s1600-h/02-Weismandel+%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%9B_Page_2.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5220805317903372754" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_8BuQqIYy668/SHQGxo8Z0dI/AAAAAAAAAOs/A64kHEqBuG0/s400/02-Weismandel+%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%9B_Page_2.jpg" border="0" /></a><br /><a href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_8BuQqIYy668/SHQGlCKuGnI/AAAAAAAAAOk/wLLsAw9Ha3k/s1600-h/02-Weismandel+%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%9B_Page_3.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5220805101336009330" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_8BuQqIYy668/SHQGlCKuGnI/AAAAAAAAAOk/wLLsAw9Ha3k/s400/02-Weismandel+%D7%A4%D7%92%D7%9B_Page_3.jpg" border="0" /></a>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-24275191593499487042008-06-25T18:33:00.010-04:002008-06-28T23:08:14.515-04:00Part 2: Why is Eruvin Different From Any Other Issue that it Elicits Such a Visceral Response?<div align="justify">Continued from <a href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2005/08/why-is-eruvin-different-from-any-other.html">part 1</a>.<br /><br />While I am still convinced that the main reason why the issue of <em>eruvin</em> elicits such a visceral response is because of <em>mi b’rosh</em>, there is an additional and, at times shared, motivation as well. This rationale developed over time and became remarkably significant after the 1979 Flatbush <em>eruv</em> debacle (or maybe even from the time of the 1949-1962 Manhattan<em> eruv </em>saga).<br /><br />Over the years, we have faced an argument from yeshivaleit that if we would learn through the <em>sugyos</em> and the <em>Rishonim</em> on <em>Meseches Eruvin</em>, particularly the <em>inyanim</em> of <em>asu rabbim u’mevatlei mechitzta</em> and <em>pirtzos esser</em>, it would be apparent that one should be stringent in regards to city <em>eruvin</em> (even with those <em>eruvin</em> that make use of <em>mechitzos</em>). At first glance, it should be evident that these statements fly in the face of our halachic <em>mesorah</em>. No one is denying that there are some major <em>poskim</em> who would object to our city <em>eruvin</em>. However, the preponderance of <em>poskim</em> of yesteryear would surely have supported the <em>eruvin</em> that have been established in the last thirty years (particularly those <em>eruvin</em> making use of <em>mechitzos</em>). Do we know the <em>sugyas</em> and the <em>Rishonim</em> better than these <em>poskim</em>? Don’t those <em>poskim</em> who want to rely on the great decisors of the past have on whom to rely? While it is possible to argue that these yeshivaleit do not comprehend the halachic process, I believe that it is not as simple as that. Moreover, why is there a trend in the <em>yeshivah velt</em> to seek all <em>chumros</em> to negate most city <em>eruvin</em>?<br /><br />I propose we chalk this all up to a phenomenon that I labeled <em>The Lamdanim Factor</em>. The <em>sugyos</em> in <em>eruvin</em> are extremely complex, involving many commentators, and run the gamut from <em>reshuyos</em> to <em>sechiras reshus</em> and from issues in <em>Orach Chaim</em> to <em>Choshen Mishpat</em>. Moreover, there are numerous <em>Rishonim</em> on <em>Meseches Eruvin</em>; it has more <em>Rishonim</em> than nearly all of the <em>mesechtos</em> in <em>Shas</em>. For this reason, the <em>yeshivah velt</em> believes that <em>eruvin</em> is their domain, and is too entailing an issue for the lowly <em>moreh hora’ah</em> to <em>pasken</em> on (albeit <em>Eruvin</em> is not traditionally considered a <em>yeshivashe mesechta</em>). <em>Eruvin</em> requires a <em>lamdan</em>, one who can plumb the depths of the <em>sugyos</em> and the <em>Rishonim</em>. <em>Eruvin</em> requires a <em>lamdan</em> who can seek out the sources without having to rely on any precedent, as do the local <em>poskim</em>. <em>Eruvin</em> requires a <em>lamdan</em> who can extrapolate from the <em>Rishonim</em> which some of the great<em> poskim</em> of the past did not understand or from the <em>Rishonim</em> who were not published until later (this argument has a basis in the great historical <em>machlokas</em> between the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> and the <em>Mishkenos Yaakov</em>; see <em><a href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2007/09/part-3-meoz-umekedem-exploring.html">Part 3: Meoz U’Mekedem – Exploring the Historical Roots of the Machlokas Regarding Eruvin</a></em>).<br /><br />In truth, <em>eruvin</em> is not unlike any other halachic issue. Every <em>rav</em>, big or small, has a right to <em>pasken</em> how he sees fit. <em>Eruvin</em> is comparable to all other issues in halachah where a <em>posek</em> recognizes his limitations and accepts the precedents of yesteryear. If only the <em>lamdanim</em> would realize their place as well.<br /><br />(As evidence to the above, many <em>lamdanim</em> support their arguments against city <em>eruvin</em> by citing their <em>Rosh Yeshivos</em>, as opposed to deferring to the <em>poskim</em>. Moreover, I find it is futile to argue in support of the major <em>poskim</em> of yesteryear. Even demonstrating that it is the <em>lamdanim</em> and not the earlier <em>poskim</em> who misunderstood the <em>sugyos</em> and the <em>Rishonim</em> is ineffective since the <em>lamdanim</em> have already made up their minds. I have yet to see an argument from these <em>lamdanim</em> that cannot be explained away or one that is even correct. Additionally, on numerous occasions, I noticed that these <em>lamdanim</em> have tried to justify a ruling from a <em>posek</em> whom they agreed with when, in fact, it was apparent that these <em>poskim</em> would never have suggested the <em>lamdan’s</em> reasoning at all. In truth these arguments are only to validate their own understanding of the issues.)</div>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-30913774711477129892008-06-23T16:44:00.027-04:002008-07-17T17:08:26.936-04:00A Question and Answer Shiur From HaRav HaGaon Rav Yisroel Belsky Shlita<div align="center"><em>Part of an ongoing commentary on the bias against city eruvin.</em></div><div align="justify"></div><br /><div align="justify">On the third day of this past <em>Chol Hamoed Pesach</em> (April 24, 2008), Rav Yisroel Belsky <em>shlita</em> gave a <em>shiur</em> called <em>Varied Questions and Answer Sessions in all of the Shulchan Aruch</em> for <em>Irgun Shiurei Torah</em> (tape #22 part 1) where one of the issues he mentioned was his objection to the Brooklyn <em>eruvin</em>. </div><div align="justify"><br />I was urged to post a critique because of Rav Belsky’s strong language against the Brooklyn <em>eruvin</em> which are supported by some of America's formost <em>poskim</em>. What follows is a refutation of many of his arguments. For the reader’s edification, I have included an audio file of the relevant part of the <em>shiur</em>.<br /><br /><object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://boxstr.com/files/2751858_dclu5/player.swf" id="audioplayer1" height="24" width="290"><br /><param name="movie" value="http://boxstr.com/files/2751858_dclu5/player.swf"><br /><param name="FlashVars" value="playerID=1&soundFile= http://boxstr.com/files/2751877_sua9s/Rav%20Belsky%20shlita%20shiur.MP3"><br /><param name="quality" value="high"><br /><param name="menu" value="false"><br /><param name="wmode" value="transparent"><br /></object><br /><br />The <em>shiur</em>:<br /><em>What kind of Shabbos is that with having ball teams and playing? … The Medrash says about the city that was חרוב, because they played כדור. People think they invented something that is פון היינטיגע צייטען, but part of it ― I’m not going to say anything ― part of it comes from this latest monstrosity that they were מחדש here with the eruv business, and that they were מתיר ממש an איסור דאורייתא לגמרי לחלוטין and someday, some people will grow up and they’ll do something brave and dangerous and they’ll take a Gemara in their hands and they will begin to learn the סוגיא and they’ll begin to learn the Rishonim and they’ll discover that the whole so called “היתר“ about the eruv, it’s a hoax from beginning to end לגמרי. It’s no more of a היתר than if they would be told that they ― I can’t think of a משל for it because I can’t think of anything worse. So they go out and say that they’ll play ball, שוין.<br /></em>The rebuttal:<br />I fail to comprehend the confidence behind this statement. After all, Rav Moshe <em>zt”l</em> didn’t want to issue a <em>p’sak din barur</em> because he realized that his objection to a Brooklyn <em>eruv</em> was a <em>chiddush</em>, and that the <em>Achronim</em> and the <em>Aruch HaShulchan</em> would not agree with him (see <a href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2005/12/hagaon-rav-moshe-feinstein-ztls.html"><em>Hagaon Rav Moshe Feinstein zt”l’s Reluctance to Pasken Against the Establishment of an Eruv</em></a>). Consequentially, is it <em>rachok min hasechel</em> for others to maintain that there are solid grounds to allow an <em>eruv</em> in Brooklyn? Additionally, the <em>Achronim</em> have guided our understanding of the <em>sugyas</em> and the <em>Rishonim</em>. Do we comprehend the <em>inyan</em> better than them? (As a matter of fact, there are copious <em>teshuvos</em> dealing with the <em>sugyas</em> and the <em>Rishonim</em> in regards to the Brooklyn <em>eruvin</em>, and they failed to find a reason to object.) There is nothing so unusual about the Brooklyn <em>eruvin</em> that we would not be able to find a precedent for them in the <em>Achronim</em>. No doubt, if we were to delve into the <em>Achronim</em> with an open mind, we would realize that there are numerous reasons why the overwhelming majority of <em>poskim</em> would allow the Brooklyn <em>eruvin</em>.<br /><br />The <em>shiur</em>:<br /><em>Yerimayahu haNavi said בפירוש ― if anybody really wants to see it, I said it a number of times ― that Moshiach will come and the גאולה will come when they stop carrying in the streets on Shabbos. ולא תוציאו משא מבתיכם ביום השבת and then the Bais HaMikdash will be built and then there will be a גאולה and if not, the חורבן will last לעולם ועד ― it will never stop. If anybody really wants to do anything worthwhile ― to see to it to cut out these שטותים and there’s ממש not one solid bases of היתר for any of these things.</em><br />The rebuttal:<br />The analogy eludes me. Yerimayah haNavi (according to all <em>meforshim</em>) was not referring to carrying within an <em>eruv</em>. Of course, Rav Belsky’s argument is that the<em> eruv</em> is not kosher, so it is as if people are carrying in an area that is not encompassed by an <em>eruv</em>. However, no doubt Rav Belsky is aware of Rav Moshe <em>zt”l’s</em> <em>teshuvah</em> (<em>Igros Moshe</em>, <em>O.C.</em> 1:186) were he states that when one follows one’s <em>rav</em> on any issue, even on <em>issurei chilul Shabbos</em>, albeit the halachah is not like their <em>rav’s</em> interpretation, no <em>aveirah</em> is transgressed. Consequentially, since those utilizing the <em>eruvin</em> in Brooklyn are just following their <em>rav’s</em> opinion that the <em>eruv</em> is kosher, no <em>issur</em> was transgressed. Is Rav Belsky suggesting that one should not follow his <em>rav</em>? Moreover, there is no doubt that the Brooklyn <em>eruvin</em> are more kosher then much of what we put into our mouths today.<br /><br />The <em>shiur</em>:<br /><em>You look through all these kuntrasim. It makes you shudder. You have a picture on the front cover of the kuntres of Brooklyn כאילו Brooklyn has a wall around it. ממש משיגע אויף טויט. There’s a wall? There’s sections of fence separated by miles one from another and they say that they are מצטרף to each other because they create a איי ,רוב the biggest צירוף gives you about 30% no matter how you דריי it.</em><br />The rebuttal:<br />How can there be an argument about facts, whether or not there are <em>mechitzos</em>? Of course, we can debate the halachic viability of these <em>mechitzos</em>, but this is not Rav Belsky argument at all. His allegation that, “there’s sections of fence separated by miles one from another,” and that it amounts to no more than a build-up of, “about 30%,” is regarding the <em>metziuos</em> and is easy enough to verify. It is simple enough (though there is a lot of walking to do, and it is very time consuming) to confirm that most of Brooklyn’s waterfront is encompassed by commercial buildings and parks which are enclosed by gates and sea walls. The <em>mechitzos</em> at the waterfront are 95% to 99% built-up and not 30% as Rav Belsky argues. Anyone who denies this fact did not inspect the Brooklyn waterfront unlike the <em>rabbanim hamatirim</em> who did. [The Coney Island Beach is also not an issue. We are using the gates beneath the Boardwalk as the <em>mechitzos</em> which separates the beach from the rest of Brooklyn. As a matter of fact, some of the Brooklyn <em>eruvin</em> do not even need to make use of the <em>mechitzos</em> beneath the Boardwalk.]<br /><br />The <em>shiur</em>:<br /><em>But they’ll say no, you could draw a line across the middle of Brooklyn and say that all the houses, each house is a חלק of the חומה that runs straight through the middle of the city</em>.<br />The rebuttal:<br />Rav Belsky is conflating the issues. The <em>mechitzos</em> that encompass Brooklyn on three sides consist mostly of gates and not of <em>mechitzos habatim</em>. The <em>mechitzos habatim</em> mentioned and depicted in the <em>kuntres The Community Eruv</em> (as a dotted line; see number 10 on this <a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6075/927/1600/Brooklyn%20map.0.jpg">map of the Brooklyn <em>mechitzos</em></a>) or on the cover of the <em>kuntres Questions and Answers Regarding the Flatbush Eruv</em> (as a solid line) are only being used to satisfy a <em>shita yechidaos</em> that would require <em>pasei bira’os</em>. Thus, even according to those who want to be stringent in all matters pertaining to <em>eruvin</em>, our <em>mechitzos</em> would suffice, since the <em>batim</em> connect the <em>pasim b’kav echad</em>. In any case, as we will further demonstrate, <em>mechitzos habatim</em> are halachic <em>mechitzos</em> <em>l’chol hadayos</em> and can be used for an <em>eruv</em> as well.<br /><br />The <em>shiur</em>:<br /><em>For a person to be so קרום that he should look at the houses in the city as being a חומה in the city, that means every single city since ששת ימי בראשית automatically had a חומה in it. Why? Because the houses themselves were the חומה. A person should פאל אן such a משוגעת, such a טיפשות that the houses in the city should be a חומה. And people come over, and they show me the picture, lookטאקעה ער האט וואס צו זאגען. Take any city that ever was, they don’t have houses in those cities? וואס עפעס? The city in the ancient world, in the new world, the middle world didn’t have houses? The cities in א"י and בבל in שושן הבירה didn’t have houses? What do they do, these people, they lived in holes in the ground? And if you take all those houses, and you’re מצטרף them so you could say look it’s 99%. Houses aren’t שייך to say that there’s a wall around a רשות , because the walls of the house. עיר שגגותיה חומותיה, those are different סוגיות. They should be left for the professionals, for people that know which side of the Gemara to open. I’m sorry, I generally try to be a little bit more gentle and careful about this, but it pains me to no end, to see public חילול שבת.</em><br />The rebuttal:<br />To begin with, Rav Belsky omitted any halachic rationale why houses can’t be classified as <em>mechitzos</em> or why they should be any different halachically than the walls of a city. There are two halachic fundaments that the overwhelming majority of <em>poskim</em> rely on when they make use of <em>mechitzos</em> that are <em>omed merubeh al haparutz</em> ― that we <em>pasken lo asu rabbim u’mevatlei mechitzta</em> and that we <em>pasken pirtzos esser</em> is <em>d’rabbanan</em>. Both of these criteria apply equally as well to <em>mechitzos habatim</em>. This can even be discerned by the very fact that many <em>poskim</em> make use of houses as <em>mechitzos</em> (see for instance: <em>Magen Avraham</em> 358:5 who cites the <em>Mabit</em>, 1:48; <em>Ginas V'radin</em>, <em>klal</em> 3:22; <em>Mayim Rabim</em>, <em>siman</em> 51; <em>Bais Ephraim</em>, <em>O.C. siman</em> 26; <em>Bais Shlomo</em>, <em>siman</em> 51; <em>Avnei Nezer</em>; <em>O.C.</em> 1:274:2, and the <em>Chazon Ish</em>, <em>O.C.</em> 107:5-7; see also <em>Mahari Stief</em>, <em>siman</em> 68). The simple reason why in earlier times we do not see that they used houses for <em>mechitzos</em> was because Yidden mostly lived in walled cities or on walled streets (<em>Judengasse</em>) and did not have a need to utilize the houses for their <em>eruv</em>. In cities that were not walled the houses were too spread out to be halachically joined as <em>mechitzos</em> (they were <em>parutz merubeh al haomed</em>). Even when the houses were close enough together to be used as <em>mechitzos</em>, the <em>Chazon Ish</em> states that at times they could not halachically be classified as a wall (because of <em>siluk hamechitzos</em>: see ibid., 107:5). There is no doubt that <em>mechitzos habatim</em> are halachic <em>mechitzos l’chol hadayos</em> and can be used for an <em>eruv</em>. Moreover, I am surprised that Rav Belsky did not realize that, at the minimum, he was belittling the <em>Chazon Ish’s</em> <em>chiddush</em> that primarily relies on <em>mechitzos habatim</em> for <em>eruvin</em>.<br /><br />Sure, there are some <em>poskim</em> who objected to the Brooklyn <em>eruvin</em>, but the way the contemporary <em>eruvin</em> utilize <em>mechitzos habatim</em> and, even more so, the fact that Brooklyn is encompassed by <em>mechitzos</em> makes it doubtful that at this point they would still object. Moreover, at the minimum, there are many <em>sfeikos</em> so even if we would agree that the matter is a <em>d’Oraysa</em>, since it is a <em>s’fek s'feika</em>, we would go <em>l’kula</em>. </div>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-54076999891859222052008-06-22T23:36:00.010-04:002008-07-08T11:40:33.474-04:00The Case of the Missing Missive<p align="justify">Some friends of mine asked me why I would position myself and Rav Kimchi <em>shlita</em> in a situation where the cabal could possibly place us in a bad light by conjuring up a letter which, to the ill informed (or to those who are looking for fodder to do away with my arguments), shows us to be not on the level. Indeed, I had recognized the possibility that this supposed letter existed even prior to their posting of it, and had suggested in an earlier comment that they had penned it themselves years ago. Despite the cabal’s insistence that they had a letter, the fact that Rav Kimchi never received this letter makes it worthless. Anyone can type a letter and then append a letterhead and signature to it. I don’t doubt for a second that the cabal would make use of such tactics. They did so with kol koreis in Brooklyn many times. This is the modus operandi of all anti-<em>eruv</em> campaigns to negate an <em>eruv</em> at all costs. I realize that one can make an argument that the pro-<em>eruv</em> group has an interest in suppressing this letter since it negates the <em>eruv</em> because it mentions the issue of <em>reshus harabbim</em>. However, I believe that the cabal has been dishonest regarding so many issues that they have no credibility whatsoever. Even regarding Rav Eider <em>zt"l's</em> letter to Rav Chaim Halpern <em>shlita</em> (parts of which were conveniently translated in this disreputable letter), they lied and claimed that Rav Eider argued that according to Rav Moshe <em>zt”l</em> no <em>eruv</em> could be established in the face of opposition. In fact, Rav Eider only said that Rav Moshe recommended to him that he should only explore the possibility of establishing an <em>eruv</em> if the <em>rabbanim</em> are all in agreement. However, Rav Moshe never said that a <em>rav</em> can’t establish an <em>eruv</em> in his own city in the face of opposition as the cabal would have you believe. With these sorts of shenanigans, why would anyone believe the cabal at all? Furthermore, if the letter never reached Rav Kimchi, maybe it was because Rav Eider regretted what was stated therein and, therefore, never sent it. Moreover, does anyone truly believe that Rav Kimchi imagined that the letter would not somehow leak out since the <em>eruv</em> is such a contentious issue? If Rav Kimchi was willing to go out on the limb and publicly declare that he never received this letter, it’s simply more plausible that he never obtained it at all.<br /><br />To begin with, I guessed that Rav Eider was terrorized because when I sent a friend of mine to speak to him regarding the NW London <em>eruv</em> he seemed very agitated and did not want to speak about it at all. [Later, I was supposed to have a meeting with him regarding the state of <em>eruvin</em> in the USA, and one of the issues I was going to ask him about was the matter of the NW London <em>eruv</em>. However, this meeting never materialized as he was unfortunately <em>nifter</em> prior to it.] Moreover I know for a fact that he was constantly pursued whenever he was involved with establishing <em>eruvin</em>. Lately, I have confirmed that this was the case regarding the Golders Green <em>eruv</em> as well; after Rav Eider left London he was terrorized by the cabal to stay out of the London <em>eruv</em> matter.<br /><br />There are a few possible scenarios of how this letter came to be:<br />1) Rav Eider did write the letter - He wrote this letter under great duress from the cabal. This could possibly answer why he never sent a copy of it to Rav Kimchi since Rav Eider would have been very uncomfortable with its contents. However, this possibility does not explain the many inconsistencies in this letter that I will discuss in number three.<br /><br />2) Rav Eider did write the letter – He wrote the letter under his own free will. Even if we could discount all of the difficulties that I mention in number three and the fact that somehow the letter never reached Rav Kimchi, I don’t understand why the cabal is so pleased with this letter. To begin with, this letter (and the letter to Rav Chaim Halpern plus I know of two other letters) confirm that Rav Padwa <em>zt”l</em> had no halachic objection to the <em>eruv</em>. Therefore, all other arguments such as <em>reshus harabbim</em>, <em>karpeifos</em> and <em>sechiras reshus</em> (which Rav Padwa allowed for Amsterdam; see <em>Noam</em>, 11 1979) should be discounted for they were only added afterwards by people whose ulterior motives were to negate the <em>eruv</em> at all cost. (I would add that the fact the reshus harabbim matter was not mentioned by Rav Eider until this much later second letter is proof that it was either not Rav Eider’s letter or he only wrote it under pressure.)<br /><br />Furthermore, one of the most vociferous members of the cabal constantly mentioned this letter and quoted from it without starting from the beginning of the pertinent quote. The full [relevant] passage of Rav Eider is, “At the time of my visit, I did not personally determine whether there was any problem of <em>shishim ribo</em> because I was there to determine feasibility and present this to the <em>Bais Din</em>. Therefore, initially I relied upon information supplied by yourself [Rav Kimchi]. I recently received statistical information which seems to indicate that the area of the <em>Eruv </em>meets the specification of a <em>reshus harabbim d’Oraysa</em> according to Maron Hagaon Rav Moshe Feinstein <em>zt”l</em>.” This member of the cabal started the quote from,”the area of the <em>Eruv</em> meets the specification of a <em>reshus harabbim d’Oraysa</em> according to Maron Hagaon Rav Moshe Feinstein <em>zt”l</em>,” opportunely leaving out that Rav Eider’s objection was dependent on statistics supplied by members of the cabal which of course are debatable and would have influenced Rav Eider’s opinion. Additionally, the <em>shishim ribo</em> issue is a non-starter. Rav Eider is either referring to the cabal’s quoted statistics that the population of the twelve <em>mil</em> by twelve <em>mil</em> area which includes the <em>eruv </em>is greater than Rav Moshe’s requirement of 3,000,000 people or that the <em>eruv</em> encompasses roads that contain <em>shishim ribo</em> traversing them. In essence, as stated above, Rav Eider’s information is only as good as the people who are giving it to him. Each one of these suppositions can be debated, and no doubt, the LBD could argue otherwise so it is not a definitive statement from Rav Eider regarding Rav Moshe’s opinion.<br /><br />Moreover, it is more likely that Rav Eider was only interested in the area enclosed by the <em>eruv</em> than the issue of the twelve <em>mil</em> by twelve <em>mil</em> area. Rav Kimchi mentioned to me that when Rav Eider originally came to London to inspect the feasibility of an <em>eruv</em>, Rav Eider called his office to obtain a copy of Rav Moshe’s <em>teshuvah</em> regarding the Detroit <em>eruvin</em>. At the time, this <em>teshuvah</em> was only available as a <em>ksav yad</em> since <em>Igros Moshe</em> volume eight where this <em>teshuvah</em> is presently published was first printed in 1996. After the <em>ksav yad</em> was faxed to Rav Eider in London, he joyfully stated that the circumstance in Detroit where Rav Moshe allowed an <em>eruv</em> is analogous to the situation in Golders Green. I too have argued (and <em>baruch sh’kevanti</em>) that similar to the circumstances of Golders Green, the Detroit neighborhoods are built-up to the city of Detroit proper, and nevertheless, Rav Moshe considered them as distinct neighborhoods and did not reckon with the matter of the twelve <em>mil</em> by twelve <em>mil</em> area at all. Consequently, Rav Eider declared that Rav Moshe would allow an<em> eruv</em> in Golders Green. It is therefore improbable that Rav Eider would even consider the statistics of the twelve <em>mil</em> by twelve <em>mil</em> area pertinent to the efficacy of the <em>eruv</em>. So, we are only left with the issue of roads containing <em>shishim ribo</em>, and regarding this statistic, it is easy to verify that the cabal is totally incorrect.<br /><br />Furthermore, this letter contradicts another tenet of the anti-<em>eruv</em> cabal. In this supposed letter Rav Eider mentions that he went to Rav Elyashiv <em>shlita</em> regarding some questions he had with the Sydney <em>eruv</em>, and Rav Eider states that, “Before [Rav Elyashiv] responded to these questions, he wanted to know whether Sydney meets the criteria of Maran Hagaon Rav Moshe Feinstein <em>zt”l</em>. Only after determining that there was no problem of a <em>reshus harabbim</em> according to these criteria, did I agree to visit.” However, the <em>Chevrah Hilchos Issurei Eruvin</em> declared that Rav Elyashiv is more stringent and disagrees with Rav Moshe regarding the application of <em>shishim ribo</em>. Rav Elayshiv, they argue, either (they can’t even get their arguments straight) upholds that the criterion of <em>shishim ribo</em> is conditional of a city or that the possibility that <em>shishim ribo</em> traversing a street would suffice to classify the road as a <em>reshus harabbim</em>. However, from this letter it would seem that Rav Elyashiv does accept Rav Moshe <em>shitos</em> in <em>eruvin</em> l’halachah. Clearly something is wrong with this letter or what the <em>Chevrah Hilchos Issurei Eruvin</em> alleges in the name of Rav Elyashiv.<br /><br />3) Rav Eider did not write the letter – Members of the cabal told Rav Eider after Rav Kimchi published <em>The Foundation of the North West London Eruv</em> which stated that, “All this has been done according to a map drawn by Rav Shimon Eider <em>shlita</em> of Lakewood,” that he has to publicly declare that he had nothing to do with the <em>eruv</em>. Rav Eider complied, and a notice was published in <em>The Jewish Tribune</em> at the time. Moreover, they insisted that Rav Eider pen a public letter of rebuke to Rav Kimchi. At this point, Rav Eider said that they should write a letter, and that he would sign it.<br /><br />This possibility would clarify why the letter is, except for the addition of a paragraph regarding <em>reshus harabbim</em> and the Sydney<em> eruv</em>, mostly a translation of the original Hebrew letter sent to Rav Chaim Halpern in 1995 (the last paragraph is a word for word translation from a letter written eight years prior). As Rav Eider never wrote this letter, the cabal did the typical thing and based their letter on Rav Eider’s original missive but updated the issues (<em>reshus harabbim</em>) to suit their needs. This scenario can also explain why Rav Kimchi never received this letter; it served the purpose of the cabal to be in possession of such a letter and be able to use it when they desired.<br /><br />Moreover, that Rav Eider did not write this letter would explain why there is a fundamental mistake in this letter regarding the understanding of Rav Moshe <em>zt”l’s shitos</em> in <em>eruvin</em>. Rav Eider states in this purported letter that, “I recently received statistical information which seems to indicate that the area of the <em>Eruv</em> meets the specification of a <em>reshus harabbim d’Oraysa</em> according to Maron Hagaon Rav Moshe Feinstein <em>zt”l</em> and requires <em>delasos</em> in many areas, <em>tzuras hapesach</em> would not be sufficient.” Anyone familiar as Rav Eider would be with Rav Moshe’s teshuvos would not argue that <em>delasos</em> would be needed in many areas but that <em>delasos</em> would be necessary to close every single area requiring a <em>tzuras hapesach</em>. Once Rav Moshe labeled a city a <em>reshus harabbim</em>, a <em>tzuras hapesach</em> would never suffice. Sure, some would try to excuse this damming evidence that this letter was not penned by Rav Eider because there is a possibility that a cul-de-sac was included in the perimeter of the <em>eruv</em>, and then, even according to Rav Moshe, <em>delasos</em> would not be required. However, this is clearly incorrect and an excuse after the fact. Rav Eider was cognizant of the boundaries of the <em>eruv</em> as he was the one who established them, and he would have recognized that there was no cul-de-sac involved in the limits of the <em>eruv</em>. In any case, according to Rav Moshe, a cul-de-sac in an area classified as a <em>reshus harabbim</em> would suffice with a <em>tzuras hapesach</em> since it is encompassed by three <em>mechitzos</em>. However, if a cul-de-sac was part of the boundaries of the <em>eruv</em>, it would, in essence, not be part of the <em>eruv</em> since it opens to the outside of the <em>eruv</em> boundaries; hence, Rav Eider would not be referring to such a situation. In the end, we will never know if Rav Eider actually signed this letter or not.<br /><br />In summation, there are many inconsistencies in this letter, and since Rav Kimchi never received the original for us to examine its veracity, there is no reason to rely on this letter at all. I should add that, notwithstanding this supposed letter stating Rav Eider’s opinion that Rav Moshe would not allow an <em>eruv</em> in Golders Green, the LBD does not have to agree with Rav Eider’s interpretation of Rav Moshe’s <em>teshuvos</em> as they are available for all to analyze. Of course, the cabal would argue that Rav Eider was a <em>talmid</em> so he knows Rav Moshe’s <em>shitos</em> in <em>eruvin</em> better than all. However, this is similar to the situation that I mentioned regarding Rav Dovid Feinstein <em>shlita</em> allowing an <em>eruv</em> to be established in Chicago according to his father, but the <em>ossrim</em> there argued that his was not the last word regarding his father. However, when those supporting an <em>eruv</em> in Brooklyn argued that Rav Moshe would allow an <em>eruv</em>, those opposing the <em>eruv</em> argued that Rav Dovid was the biggest expert in his father’s <em>shitos</em>, and he maintained that his father would not allow an <em>eruv</em> in Brooklyn even in its present construction. I guess that when the issue is <em>eruvin</em>, the leading experts are always those who are against <em>eruvin</em>. What is particularly galling is that there are people out there who, after reading these arguments, will recognize that what I presented rings true but will never concede that these arguments undermine the validity of the letter. </p>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-38240041461295584012008-06-22T21:43:00.002-04:002008-06-22T21:46:47.360-04:00Eruvin in the News: Westhampton Beach, NY 7<div align="center"><strong>Orthodox Jews’ Request Divides a Resort Village</strong> </div><div align="center"> </div><br /><div align="justify">By Joseph Berger</div><br /><div align="justify"> </div><div align="justify">WESTHAMPTON BEACH - “Is Westhampton Beach an Orthodox Jewish Community?” the full-page newspaper advertisement asked in boldface type. Then it answered: “No it’s a secular, open Village with a proud history of welcoming All faiths. The erection of an eruv will proclaim us as an Orthodox Jewish community for all time. Don’t let it happen.”</div><div align="justify"><br />Just a few months ago, the response to such an advertisement might have included not just outrage or applause but also a question: “What is an eruv?” <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/22mainli.html?_r=1&ref=nyregionspecial2&oref=slogin">Read on...</a></div>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-37431431905946351542008-06-22T21:39:00.002-04:002008-06-22T21:43:32.746-04:00Eruvin in the News: Westhampton Beach, NY 6<div align="center"><strong>Glass Ceiling for Eruvs?</strong></div><br /><div align="center"><strong></strong></div><div align="justify"><strong>By Shlomo Shamir </strong></div><br /><div align="justify"><strong></strong></div><div align="justify">While the number of U.S. urban eruvs grow, the Westhampton eruv effort is meeting fierce local resistance. </div><div align="justify"><br />New York - Belonging to a synagogue, observing the laws of kashrut, even holding a Pesach Seder have lost their pride of place as the outright signs of religious affiliation in the American Jewish community. Lately, what typifies the ultra-Orthodox population, particularly the substrata of young couples who moved in recent years to small towns and suburbs, is the worrying and effort being put into establishing an eruv.<br /><br />Yes, eruv chatzerot, that ancient ruling by King Solomon and his court which turns private property and public property into one entity so that small items may be carried and baby carriages pushed on the Sabbath. <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/994843.html">Read on...</a></div>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-25108325930056838662008-06-19T23:18:00.002-04:002008-06-19T23:25:22.711-04:00Eruvin in the News: Westhampton Beach, NY 5<div align="center"><strong>Eruv Ad Again Stirs Debate in Westhampton Beach</strong></div><br /><div align="center"><strong></strong> </div><div align="justify">By Mitchell Freedman</div><div align="justify"> </div><br /><div align="justify">Earlier this year, the Westhampton Beach Village Board wrestled with whether to approve an eruv, a symbolically fenced area where many Orthodox Jews feel free to perform tasks otherwise proscribed on the Sabbath, such as pushing a baby carriage or even carrying house keys.</div><div align="justify"> </div><br /><div align="justify">Several heated village board meetings later, Rabbi Marc Schneier of the Hampton Synagogue suspended the request until the fall. <a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ny-lieruv0619,0,3981435.story"> Read on...</a></div>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-56529320029221478402008-06-18T23:58:00.007-04:002008-06-19T00:19:27.740-04:00An Open Letter From HaRav Kimchi Shlita<div align="justify">On the numerous occasions when I debated members of the anti-<em>eruv</em> cabal, they mentioned two letters from Rav Shimon Eider <em>zt”l</em> regarding the NW London <em>Eruv</em>. One of the letters was addressed to Rav Chaim Halpern <em>shlita</em>, and according to the cabal, it stated that Rav Eider had asserted that his <em>rebbe</em> Rav Moshe Feinstein <em>zt”l</em> would have objected to the NW London <em>Eruv</em> because of the <em>machlokas</em> that ensued. I argued that Rav Moshe would not have objected to the <em>eruv</em> because of <em>machlokas</em> since he allowed the <em>rabbanim</em> to erect an <em>eruv</em> in Manhattan and in Brooklyn in the face of opposition. I stated then that if Rav Moshe had mentioned anything to Rav Eider regarding <em>machlokas</em> and <em>eruvin</em>, it was only a suggestion that Rav Eider should not involve himself in the internal politics of <em>eruvin</em> if there is no consensus from the local <em>rabbanim</em>. After I received a copy of this letter, I was proven correct. According to this letter, if some of the local <em>rabbanim</em> want to establish an <em>eruv</em>, Rav Moshe would not object even if there is opposition.<br /><br />The cabal alleged that the second letter from Rav Eider was addressed to Rav Avrohom Kimchi <em>shlita</em>. The cabal asserted that Rav Eider argued in this letter that his <em>rebbe</em> Rav Moshe would object to the NW London <em>Eruv</em> for halachic reasons. However, as we will now see from the following letter, Rav Kimchi never received such a missive which also explains why it was never disseminated. The following open letter from Rav Kimchi should hopefully put to rest this rumor circulated by the anti-<em>eruv</em> cabal. Subsequently, there is no doubt that Rav Moshe would not have objected to the NW London <em>Eruv</em> for halachic reasons. </div><div align="justify"></div><br /><div align="center"><strong>RABBI ALAN AVROHOM KIMCHE<br />42 PRINCES PARK AVENUE. LONDON NW11 0JT<br />THE NER YISRAEL COMMUNITY. LONDON</strong><br /><br />18th June 2008<br /><br /><strong>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN</strong></div><div align="justify"><br />It has been brought to my attention that in the debate surrounding the NW London <em>Eruv</em> a claim has been made which is entirely without any foundation or truth whatsoever. </div><div align="justify"><br />It is well known that approximately 20 years ago, at the initial planning stage of the <em>eruv</em>, the late R. Shimeon Eider <em>ztzal</em> came to London for several days on our request. He spent many days with me together with our team, during which he carefully considered many possible maps for the <em>eruv</em>, and finally decided on the one which was eventually built. He took great care with all measurements, traffic flow figures and maintenance strategies, as was fitting for an expert and a professional in his field. From the outset he was enthusiastic and encouraged us all in this venture, and the intention was that he would return to supervise its actual construction. However, when he realized the extent of the opposition from other local rabbonim he apologized to me on the phone and said that he was not able to suffer the aggravation of <em>machlokes</em>.<br /><br />At no point did he indicate in any way that he had changed his mind about the validity and kashrus of the <em>eruv</em> itself, and when it was built he simply let it be known that he had not in fact supervised its construction, which is absolutely correct.<br /><br />It is now being claimed that a letter was written to me in which he allegedly cites his halakhic reservations or problems with the <em>eruv</em> as the reason for his withdrawal, and that I have allegedly suppressed this letter.<br /><br />I would like to make it absolutely clear that I have never received such a letter myself, or anything similar to it, nor have I ever heard of its alleged existence. In fact anyone who had been at any of the many meetings and phone calls we had together would be amazed at this claim, since it was with great certainty and enthusiasm that he led us in the initial stages of this project citing all the reasons why London did not have the problems of Manhattan, and that clearly the rulings of HaGaon R. Chaim Ozer <em>ztzal</em> for Paris and the rulings of HaGaon the Chazon Ish <em>zatzal </em>were directly applicable here.</div><div align="center"><br /><strong><em>Yehi Ratzon she'nizkeh le'harbos be'divrei sholom ve'emess</em></strong></div>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-27687118964026962142008-06-13T01:32:00.004-04:002008-06-23T13:34:41.324-04:00Eruvin in the News: Westmount, Quebec<div align="center"><strong>Westmount Eruv Okayed</strong></div><br />By Dan Delmar<br /><div align="justify"><br />Westmount’s council unanimously passed a resolution last month allowing a local synagogue to put up a thin fishing line on utility poles circling most of the city, an installation deemed necessary by conservative and Orthodox Jews.</div><div align="justify"></div><br /><div align="justify">The line, called an Eruv, symbolically joins private domains to public ones, allowing for the carrying of small items outside one’s home permissible on Shabbat. <a href="http://thesuburban.com/content.jsp?sid=13830726253340477555704132881&ctid=1000029&cnid=1015673">Read on...</a></div>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-42619651928115056922008-06-05T02:09:00.007-04:002008-06-05T14:22:04.081-04:00Eruvin in the News: Westhampton Beach, NY 4<p align="center"><strong>Eruv Plan Roils Tony Town In Hamptons</strong></p><br /><p align="center"><em>Nasty E-mail Campaign in Westhampton Beach Says Schneier Wants ‘To Create Another Lawrence.’</em></p><p align="justify">By Stewart Ain</p><p align="justify">The negative e-mails started soon after word spread that the Hampton Synagogue was asking the tony Village of Westhampton Beach for a proclamation permitting it to erect an eruv, or symbolic boundary, around the synagogue.</p><p align="justify">It would, one e-mail said, “allow the Jewish people to pass through people’s property on their way to temple. ... It is the beginning of a ‘push’ by the rabbi to create another Tenafly or Lawrence [both have large concentrations of Orthodox Jews]. Shopkeepers have already been asked rather strongly to please close their stores on Saturday.” <a href="http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c36_a12131/News/New_York.html">Read on...</a></p><p align="justify">{Ed. note - The prize for the most glaringly obvious statement goes to the Mayor of Tenafly NJ: "Teller, who is seeking re-election as mayor ... pointed out that he called the mayor of Tenafly, N.J., which lost a six-year battle to prevent the erection of an eruv. Teller said the mayor told him, “It is invisible and has made no change [in the community] in the three years it has been up.” Had they asked me I could have spared them the six-year battle.}</p>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-19087450236059231802008-06-03T17:24:00.013-04:002008-06-11T18:33:36.115-04:00Part 3: The Jewish Tribune’s Argument Against the NW London Eruv<div align="justify">Continued from part <a href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2008/05/part-2-jewish-tribunes-argument-against.html">II</a></div><br /><div align="justify"></div><div align="justify">The Jewish Tribune, page 4, Public Notice:<br /><em>In view of a brochure and rumours recently circulating in connection with the Eruv in Nort West London, we wish to reaffirm our opinion that it remains problematic and of doubtful validity.<br />In particular, renowned past and present Poskim – including Rav M. Feinstein, Dayan I. J. Weiss and others have ruled that London is considered a public domain Min-Hatorah, automatically invalidates any such Eruv. According to the Chazon Ish it has other faults.<br /></em>The rebuttal:<br />To begin with, regarding Rav Moshe <em>zt”l</em>, it is important to note there is a fundamental flaw in the anti-<em>eruv</em> cabal’s way of thinking regarding his <em>chiddushim</em> in <em>eruvin</em>. Rav Moshe was only against an <em>eruv</em> in Manhattan and Brooklyn. His objections were based on self-admitted major <em>chiddushim</em> in <em>hilchos eruvin</em> and therefore Rav Moshe did not want to even issue a <em>p’sak din barur</em> (see <a href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2005/12/hagaon-rav-moshe-feinstein-ztls.html"><em>Hagaon Rav Moshe Feinstein zt”l’s Reluctance to Pasken Against the Establishment of an Eruv</em></a>). We, therefore, do not have a right to negate an <em>eruv</em> by adding to his <em>chiddushim</em>. </div><div align="justify"></div><div align="justify">There are two reasons why Rav Moshe would allow the London <em>eruv</em>:<br />1) Despite the fact that Golders Green is developed with houses all the way up to the inner city of London, Rav Moshe would allow that the neighborhood is distinct from its surroundings. This can be discerned from the fact that Rav Moshe allowed the establishment of <em>eruvin</em> in neighborhoods with comparable conditions to Golders Green. Rav Moshe allowed an <em>eruv</em> in the Detroit neighborhoods of Oak Park and Southfield despite the fact that these two neighborhoods are well developed with houses right up to the Detroit city line. Additionally, Rav Moshe allowed an <em>eruv</em> for the neighborhood of Kew Gardens Hills, Queens even though all of Queens’s neighborhoods adjoin each other. In both situations, Rav Moshe maintained that these neighborhoods are distinct despite the fact that they were part of a larger built up area. There is no doubt that Golders Green is a distinct neighborhood and is not part of the inner city of London. Why should Golders Green be any different then Queens and Detroit where Rav Moshe allowed an <em>eruv</em>? [I would add that even if we were to apply Rav Moshe’s <em>chiddush</em> that he used in Brooklyn, that a city is an area of twelve <em>mil</em> by twelve <em>mil</em>, to the city of London, we probably would not have a population of 3,000,000 people contained therein. However, in light of the above, we do not have to involve ourselves with this issue at all.]<br />2) Alternatively, the area is classified as a <em>reshus hayachid</em> since it is enclosed by <em>mechitzos habatim</em>. Those who assert that Rav Moshe would not allow <em>mechitzos habatim</em> are totally incorrect. <em>Mechitzos habatim</em> are <em>mechitzos l’chol hadayos</em>. There are two fundaments required to allow <em>mechitzos habatim</em> (or for that matter any <em>mechitzos</em>), and Rav Moshe agrees to both of them: 1. That we <em>pasken lo asu rabbim</em>. 2. That we <em>pasken pirtzos esser</em> is <em>d’rabbanan</em>. Rav Moshe only took issue with the <em>chiddush</em> of the <em>Chazon Ish</em> that the <em>omed</em> of a <em>reshus hayachid</em> formed a <em>mechitzah</em> but not with the above two fundaments.<br /><br />Regarding the <em>Chazon Ish shitos</em>, the <em>eruv</em> has no other faults. He would allow the <em>eruv</em> <em>l’chatchilah</em> (as mentioned above on the subject of the <em>K’vish Haschachor</em> and the <em>karpeifos</em>).<br /><br />Regarding Rav Weiss <em>zt”l</em>, it is important to mention that he never articulated a word about erecting an <em>eruv</em> in London. He only declared that based on the <em>Bais Ephraim’s</em> (and the <em>Chacham Tzvi’s</em>) statement, London is a <em>reshus harabbim</em> regarding <em>shishim ribo</em>. Therefore, he argues, we would not be able to include <em>shishim ribo</em> as one of the <em>heterim</em> to allow, for example, pushing a wheelchair on Shabbos without an <em>eruv</em> (<em>Minchas Yitzchak</em>, 2:114:9; see also 2:98:17; 2:112:4; 3:26:4; 3:36:3; 5:40; and his <em>haskamah</em> on <em>Birchas HaShabbos</em>, 1987). From this statement, the cabal wants to convince us that the <em>Minchas Yitzchak</em> was opposed to an <em>eruv</em> in London. This is totally preposterous since there are several reasons why Rav Weiss could have called London a <em>reshus harabbim</em> but nevertheless would have allowed an <em>eruv</em>. To begin with, it should be noted that the <em>Minchas Yitzchak</em>, in his <em>teshuvos</em>, oscillated between calling London a <em>reshus harabbim</em> and stating that the matter still requires consideration (<em>tzaruch iyun</em>).<br /><br />As I just mentioned, Rav Weiss primarily cites the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> as the source for his statement that London is a <em>reshus harabbim</em> of <em>shishim ribo</em>; thus it would be judicious to examine what the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> assumed regarding London. The <em>Bais Ephraim</em> (<em>O.C. siman</em> 26 p. 45) states that the reason why some <em>Rishonim</em> only mention, as the criteria of a <em>reshus harabbim</em>, that a street would need to be sixteen <em>amos</em> wide and <em>mefulash u’mechuvanim m’shaar l’shaar</em> and not <em>shishim ribo</em> is because there were cities such as Paris, London, Vienna, Frankfort-on-Main and others that did contain <em>shishim ribo</em>. Therefore, the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> postulates, these <em>Rishonim</em> only mentioned the criteria that pertained to large cities (and would allow an <em>eruv</em>). As proof that there were such cities, the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> quotes the question posed to the <em>Chacham Tzvi</em> (<em>siman</em> 37) regarding the possibility that there were several <em>sratyas</em> [thoroughfares] and <em>platyas</em> [marketplaces] in England that contained <em>shishim ribo</em> traversing them. Some want to argue that since the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> states that the cities of Paris, London, Vienna and Frankfort-on-Main contain <em>shishim ribo</em>, he upholds that the criterion of <em>shishim ribo</em> is conditional of a city and not a street. This is incorrect. As can be discerned regarding his discussion of cities containing <em>shishim ribo</em>, it is clear from the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> that he maintains that the criterion is conditional of a street since he quotes the query posed to the <em>Chacham Tzvi</em> which was referring to thoroughfares and marketplaces in England containing <em>shishim ribo</em> and not about the cities themselves (there are many instances when the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> actually discusses the criterion of <em>shishim ribo</em> and clearly indicates that it refers to a street; see <a href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2006/01/overwhelming-majority-of-achronim.html"><em>The Overwhelming Majority of Achronim Maintain That the Shishim Ribo Has to Traverse the Street Itself</em></a><em> </em>and <em><a href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2006/06/part-4-birur-hashitos-regarding.html">Part 4: Birur HaShitos ─ Regarding Shishim Ribo</a></em>). Moreover, the <em>Minchas Yitzchak</em> himself, when he explores the criterion of <em>shishim ribo</em> (8:32:1), upholds that the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> is of the opinion that the <em>shishim ribo</em> must traverse the street itself (albeit not daily). Consequentially, when the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> discusses cities containing <em>shishim ribo</em>, he must be referring to streets of a city that contain <em>shishim ribo</em>.<br /><br />In light of the above, let us explore the opinion of the <em>Minchas Yitzchak</em> regarding <em>shishim ribo</em>, and what he would possibly maintain regarding <em>eruvin</em>. When Rav Weiss posits that the circumstances in London would not allow us to include <em>shishim ribo</em> for any <em>heter</em> since the city contains <em>shishim ribo</em>, it was not because he made a survey of London and consequentially came to this conclusion, but rather he was just quoting the <em>Bais Ephraim</em>. However, the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> assumed that there were streets and marketplaces that possibly contained <em>shishim ribo</em>, and therefore, he referred to London as a <em>reshus harabbim</em> of <em>shishim ribo</em>. Additionally, the <em>Minchas Yitzchak</em> himself understood the <em>Bais Ephraim’s shita</em> in <em>shishim ribo</em> as applying to a street. Consequently, if we now know that there is no street in London that ever has <em>shishim ribo</em> traversing it, even Rav Weiss would admit that no <em>reshus harabbim</em> exists therein, and an eruv of <em>tzuras hapesachim</em> can be erected. Clearly there is no street in Golders Green that has anywhere close to <em>shishim ribo</em> traversing it. Moreover, if the <em>Minchas Yitzchak</em> was asked about establishing an <em>eruv</em> in London, it is possible that he would argue that we follow the <em>Shulchan Aruch HaRav</em> that a <em>tzuras hapesach</em> reclassifies a <em>reshus harabbim</em> into a <em>reshus hayachid</em>, and only <em>me’d’rabbanan</em>, do we require <em>delasos</em>. Since the requirement is only <em>me’d’rabbanan</em>, we can be lenient and apply any additional <em>heter</em> to remove the obligation of <em>delasos</em>. Additionally, Rav Weiss could allow an <em>eruv</em> based on the <em>Chazon Ish’s chiddush</em>. Furthermore, since Rav Weiss followed the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> ─ who maintains <em>lo asu rabbim u’mevatlei mechitzta</em>, and that <em>pirtzos esser</em> is <em>me’d’rabbanan</em> ─ there is no doubt that he would allow the <em>eruv</em> since it consists of <em>mechitzos</em>. The reason why the <em>Minchas Yitzchak</em> did not rely on the <em>Chazon Ish</em> or <em>mechitzos</em> (<em>habattim</em>) to downgrade London to a <em>reshus hayachid</em> in his <em>teshuvos</em> was simply because he was not erecting an <em>eruv</em>, so he did not evaluate the possibility of using <em>mechitzos</em>. </div><div align="justify"></div><br /><div align="justify">The above illuminates an overarching flaw in many of the anti-<em>eruv</em> group’s arguments. They purposely conflate a statement from a <em>posek</em> regarding another issue as if it would negate an <em>eruv</em>. If a <em>posek</em> was actually establishing an <em>eruv</em>, he would truly plumb the depths of <em>hilchos eruvin</em> to seek a means to establish one. This can be discerned from the <em>Minchas Yitzchok</em> himself. When he refers to issues such as pushing wheelchairs on Shabbos (without an <em>eruv</em>), he accepted the <em>Bais Ephraim’s</em> assumption that there are streets in London that have <em>shishim ribo</em> traversing them. However, when the matter was <em>eruvin</em>, he states clearly that the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> maintains that the <em>shishim ribo</em> must traverse the street itself as opposed to a city, which in fact would allow an <em>eruv</em> for London.<br /><br />[I would add, it is remarkable and telling that Rav Weiss cites in some of his <em>teshuvos</em> the <em>Bais Ephraim’s</em> argument that there were cities which contained <em>shishim ribo</em> and yet were not classified as a <em>reshus harabbim</em> since the streets were not sixteen<em> amos</em> wide and were not <em>mefulash mechuvanim m’shaar l’shaar</em>. The <em>Minchas Yitzchak</em> then posits that it is obvious that the streets of London are sixteen <em>amos</em> wide so they possibly are a <em>reshus harabbim</em>, but he then fails to mention anything regarding the criterion of <em>mefulash u’mechuvanim m’shaar l’shaar</em>. (Of course, the cabal would proclaim that evidently Rav Weiss considered the streets of London <em>mefulash u’mechuvanim m’shaar l’shaar</em> since he never utilized this criterion. However, this begs the question of why did he mention the criterion that the streets today are sixteen <em>amos</em> wide and did not just append to this that the streets of London are <em>mechuvanim m’shaar l’shaar</em>, as well.) The most likely explanation for this omission is that since the <em>Minchas Yitzchak</em> was not referring to establishing an <em>eruv</em> and was not seeking a <em>heter</em> to erect one, he did not utilize the criterion of <em>mefulash u’mechuvanim m’shaar l’shaar</em> since it would require that he evaluate each and every street separately to observe if they meet this criterion or not. However, regarding <em>shishim ribo</em>, Rav Weiss accepted the <em>Bais Ephraim’s</em> assumption (and did not evaluate the streets to discern if they actually contain <em>shishim ribo</em> or not) that there were streets that met this criterion; hence, London was classified as a <em>reshus harabbim</em>, and as a result, we would not be able to use it as a <em>heter</em> at all. Consequently, if Rav Weiss was involved with the construction of an <em>eruv</em> in London, there is no doubt that he would follow the <em>Bais Ephraim</em> and assess each street separately to distinguish if it meets the requirement of being <em>mefulash u’mechuvanim m’shaar l’shaar</em>, as well.]<br /><br />Finally, I think that it is important to note that the greatest <em>posek</em> that lived in England in the past hundred years, Rav Avroham Ahron Yudelovitz <em>zt”l</em>, the <em>Bais Av</em>, wrote an entire volume regarding an <em>eruv</em> in Manchester and in all major cities. He argued that the criterion of <em>shishim ribo</em> is conditional of a street, and that the streets would need to be <em>mefulash u’mechuvanim m’shaar l’shaar</em> in order to be classified as a <em>reshus harbbim</em>. There is no doubt that he would be more than satisfied with the new <em>eruv</em> consisting of <em>mechitzos</em> in London.<br /><br />In summation, the article in The Jewish Tribune contains the following fabrications:<br />1) Rav Eider <em>zt”l</em> claimed that Rav Moshe <em>zt”l</em> would not allow the <em>eruv</em> in Golders Green. Some members of the cabal even go so far to claim that Rav Eider alleged that his <em>rebbe</em> would not allow the <em>eruv</em> in Golders Green because he would classify it as a <em>reshus harabbim</em>. There is not a shred of evidence to back up these allegations.<br />2) The London <em>Bais Din</em> or the <em>Rosh Bais Din shlita</em> originally asserted that the <em>eruv</em> was <em>mehudar</em>. In fact never was the word <em>mehudar</em> used.<br />3) Rav Elyashiv <em>shlita</em> understood the criterion of <em>shishim ribo</em> as being conditional of a street servicing <em>shishim ribo</em>. In fact, Rav Elyashiv stated in his letter that <em>shishim ribo</em> is conditional of the city. [Of course the cabal would argue that what Rav Elyashiv meant when he said that a city containing <em>shishim ribo</em> is classified as a <em>reshus harabbim</em> was that there could now be a street in the city that services <em>shishim ribo</em>. Besides for the fact that they would need to add words to Rav Elyashiv’s letter for this argument to be true, it is erroneous as well. Rav Elyashiv stated that it is a concern if Yerushalayim contains <em>shishim ribo</em> since we would not be able to rely on <em>shitas Rashi</em>. If Rav Elyashiv maintained that the criterion of <em>shishim ribo</em> is conditional of a street servicing 600,000 people, he would not have mentioned the issue of Yerushalayim containing <em>shishim ribo</em>. For even if the city did not contain <em>shishim ribo</em>, the roads could nevertheless be classified as servicing 600,000 people since additional commuters use the roads coming into the city as well. Consequently, if Rav Elayshiv understood the criterion of <em>shishim ribo</em> as being conditional of a street servicing 600,000 people, this would have been his emphasis and not the city of Yerushalayim itself.]<br />4) Rav Elayshiv upheld that only in an area where people were previously carrying can we rely on <em>sechirus reshus</em> of the city mayor. In fact, Rav Elayshiv’s maintained that <em>eruvin</em> can be established in areas that did not have one prior, and that we can rely on today’s <em>sechirus reshus</em>.<br />5) Rav Karelitz claimed that the <em>Chazon Ish</em> did not rely on his <em>chiddush</em> in practice, and therefore, the K’vish Haschachor was not included in the Bnai Brak <em>eruv</em> because it was possibly a <em>reshus harabbim</em>. In fact, it was not included by the <em>Chazon Ish</em> in the Bnai Brak <em>eruv</em> because it failed to meet the criterion of his <em>chiddush</em>.<br /><br />In summation the following rationales would allow an <em>eruv</em> in Golders Green:<br />1) There is no street that has <em>shishim ribo</em> traversing it. Given that there is no street included in the <em>eruv</em> that ever comes close to having <em>shishim ribo</em> traversing it, even those who argue that just the possibility alone would classify it as a <em>reshus harabbim</em> would allow an<em> eruv</em>. Moreover, most <em>poskim</em> maintain that we do not include vehicular traffic in the tally.<br />2) The streets of the community are not <em>mefulash u’mechuvanim m’shaar l’shaar</em>.<br />3) We can rely on the <em>chiddush</em> of the <em>Chazon Ish</em>.<br />4) The area is fundamentally a <em>reshus hayachid</em> since it is encompassed by <em>mechitzos</em>.<br />Even one of the above conditions would be sufficient ground to allow an <em>eruv</em> of <em>tzuras hepesachim l’chatchilah</em>. Additionally, as there are many reasons to allow an <em>eruv</em> in London, even a <em>Baal Nefesh</em> can rely on the <em>eruv</em> with certainty. Furthermore, since the Golders Green <em>eruv</em> consist of <em>mechitzos habatim</em>, the <em>eruv</em> is considered a <em>Rambam eruv</em>.<br /><br />All the other halachic arguments ─ such as <em>sechiras reshus</em> or <em>karpeifos</em> ─ are issues that affect all city <em>eruvin</em> today, but nevertheless, have not negated any <em>eruv</em> yet. Why should Golders Green be any different? Moreover, all the arguments set forth to date have been that the <em>Gedolei Haposkim</em> would have objected to an <em>eruv</em> in London, but the issue of <em>sechiras reshus</em> and <em>karpeifos</em> have never been part of the <em>Gedolei Haposkim’s</em> arguments at all. Why do we have to follow those who want to collect every <em>chumrah</em> in <em>hilchos eruvin</em>? Dear readers, there are few <em>poskim</em> who, if we would follow all their rulings in regards to <em>eruvin</em>, would not allow us to establish an <em>eruv l’chatchilah</em>.</div><div align="justify"><br />We are left with the <em>hashkafic</em> issues. One who claims that an <em>eruv</em> negatively impacts the sanctity of the Shabbos by encouraging unbecoming behavior, such as ball playing or socializing, is in fact making a blanket statement against all <em>eruvin</em> ─ since these issues can be problematic with <em>eruvin</em> in both large and small cities and even a private <em>eruv</em> between adjacent houses ─ and he can be considered an <em>einoh modeh b’eruv</em>. <em>Eruvin</em>, according to the <em>poskim</em>, was always a matter of <em>halachah</em> and not <em>hashkafah</em>. Let us remember that an <em>eruv</em> is a <em>tikun</em> and not a <em>michshol</em>, and it serves to improve the spiritual quality of a community’s Shabbos observance. </div>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-39962054165794397882008-06-01T02:01:00.002-04:002008-06-05T02:08:37.662-04:00Eruvin in the News: Owings Mills, MD<div align="center"><strong>Eruv For Owings Mills</strong></div><div align="center"><br /><em>Eruv in Owings Mills Enables Residents to Leave Their Homes on Shabbat</em></div><br /><div align="center"><em></em> </div><div align="justify">By Barbara Pash</div><div align="justify"> </div><br /><div align="justify">Rabbi Aaron Tendler talks about building community. He talks about outreach to the Jewish community in Owings Mills. He also talks about what it takes to install an eruv because four years ago, Rabbi Tendler, who works at Ner Israel Rabbinical College and is the rabbi of the Etz Chaim Center for Jewish Living and Learning’s Valley Village Center, did just that. </div><div align="justify"><br />Now, every Thursday morning, he tours the eruv in Northwest Baltimore County to make sure it is intact. “It gives me time to make a repair,” he said. <a href="http://www.jewishtimes.com/index.php/jewishtimes/news/jt/local_news/eruv_for_owings_mills/">Read on...</a></div>linemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11852842249631814521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11432515.post-89896638301435156802008-05-27T23:21:00.013-04:002008-06-08T01:02:51.912-04:00Part 2: The Jewish Tribune’s Argument Against the NW London Eruv<div align="justify">Continued from part <a href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2008/05/part-1-jewish-tribunes-argument-against.html">I</a></div><br /><div align="justify"></div><div align="justify">The Jewish Tribune, page 4:<br /><em>This [that it is sufficient if a road just services shishim ribo to be classified as a reshus harabbim] is the opinion of almost all the leading authorities of our time – Rav M Feinstein ztl, Rav A Kotler ztl, Rav S.Z. Auerbach ztl, Rav Kaminetsky, zl. Rav Y.Y. Weiss ztl and yibodel l’chaim Rav Y. S. Elyashev shlito – although their opinion in this regard seem to be ignored in the publication!</em><br />The rebuttal:<br />Rav Moshe <em>zt”l’s</em> opinion was (<em>Igros Moshe</em>, <em>O.C.</em> 1:139:5, 4:87, 5:28:16) that an intercity road [<em>sratya</em>] would require 600,000 people traversing the same section of the road daily for it to be classified as a <em>reshus harabbim</em>. Additionally, Rav Moshe stated (ibid., 5:28:5, 5:29) that the criterion of <em>shishim ribo</em> when applied to a city would necessitate a population of at least 3,000,000 inhabitants. Only a city with such a sizable population could physically satisfy the condition of <em>shishim ribo ovrim bo</em>, 600,000 people collectively traversing its streets at one time. Obviously, the author of this article does not know Rav Moshe’s opinion at all. Regarding Rav Aharon Kotler <em>zt”l’s</em> view, I challenge the author of this article to cite one <em>teshuvah</em> of Rav Aharon’s dealing with how to apply the criteria of <em>shishim ribo</em>. Dear reader, there is no such <em>teshuvah</em>. The opinions of Rav Auerbach <em>zt”l</em> and Rav Kaminetsky <em>zt”l</em> are pure hearsay from the cabal. Regarding Rav Weiss <em>zt”l</em>, as cited above in regards to the <em>Bais Ephraim</em>, he maintains that <em>shishim ribo</em> needs to actually traverse the street but just not every day of the year (<em>Minchas Yitzchak</em>, 8:32). That Rav Elyashiv <em>shlita</em> subscribes to this opinion is hearsay from the cabal, as well. As a matter of fact, Rav Elyashiv’s opinion is clarified in his letter which was included in the <em>kuntres</em>, and it is certainly not what this article claims it to be. What can be discerned from this letter is that Rav Elyashiv maintains that <em>shishim ribo</em> is conditional of the city and is not applicable to a road at all. This is just another proof that the cabal states opinions that they make up out of thin air in the name of <em>gedolim</em>. As I had mentioned prior in my post regarding the <em>kuntres</em>, I am surprised that Rav Elyashiv maintains that <em>shishim ribo</em> is conditional of a city, since the overwhelming majority of <em>poskim</em> uphold that it is a qualification of a street (see <em><a href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2006/01/part-2a-why-brooklyn-is-not-reshus.html">Part 2a: Why Brooklyn Is Not a Reshus HaRabbim</a></em>). [In answer to those who argue that the <em>Achiezer</em> maintains that <em>shishim ribo</em> is conditional of a city, see my post <em><a href="http://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2006/01/part-1-achiezer-explained.html">Part 1: The Achiezer Explained</a></em> where I prove otherwise.]<br /><br />The Jewish Tribune, page 4:<br /><em>(Other eruvim in major cities do not encounter the same issues which for reasons of the limited scope of this article cannot be dealt with. They will be clarified in a kuntres to be published shortly.)</em><br />The rebuttal:<br />There is no doubt that the NW London <em>eruv</em> is as <em>mehudar</em> or possibly even more <em>mehudar</em>, as most city <em>eruvin</em> past or present. I look forward to a clarification of the difference between the London <em>eruv</em> and <em>eruvin</em> in the rest of the world.<br /><br />The Jewish Tribune, page 4:<br /><em>The roads concerned, albeit interconnected and not absolutely straight, are still classified as r’shus horabim particularly as they are highways. (Confirmed by Rav S.Z. Auerbach and Rav YS Elyashev). It is true that the Chazon Ish ztl advanced a novel and more lenient view but his thesis is opposed by all the aforementioned authorities and earlier gedolim.</em><br />The rebuttal:<br />The roads of London fail to meet at least two of the requirements of a <em>reshus harabbim</em>: 1) They do not contain <em>shishim ribo</em>. 2) They are not <em>mefulash u’mechuvanim m’shar l’shaar</em>. Moreover, since the <em>eruv</em> consists of <em>mechitzos habatim</em> on all four sides that are <em>omed merubeh al haparutz</em> (or at the minimum we can make use of the <em>Chazon Ish’s chiddush</em>) the area enclosed is fundamentally a <em>reshus hayachid min haTorah</em>. Even one of the above conditions would be sufficient ground to permit an <em>eruv</em> of <em>tzuras hapesachim</em>. Accordingly, as there are many reasons to allow an <em>eruv</em> in London, even a <em>Baal Nefesh</em> can utilize the <em>eruv</em> with certainty. Additionally, there is no difference between a road and a highway that runs through a city as the article seems to suggest. Both would need to be <em>mefulash u’mechuvanim m’shar l’shaar</em>. I reiterate, everything that the cabal mentions in the name of the <em>gedolim</em> (Rav Auerbach <em>zt”l</em> and Rav Elyashev <em>shlita</em>) is hearsay. While Rav Kotler <